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Monday, July 11, 2016

Why Age Of Em Will Not Happen Soon

You cannot resume a human mind from static imagery of a brain, any more than you can resume the apps running on your smartphone from static imagery of your phone's circuitry.

The FBI confronted this reality when trying to crack the San Bernardino shooters' iPhone.

The 2008 Whole Brain Emulation Roadmap seems to completely miss this point, except perhaps in its handwaving appendix on "non-destructive and gradual replacement". Those fantasies will eventually be realized, and only then will minds be able to be hibernated (and thus cheaply and quickly copied.)

So the Age of Em is extremely unlikely to happen in the manner and timeframe that the brilliant Robin Hanson expects.

There is in principle a way around this hibernation problem. You just have to emulate the entire development of a brain, and then feed it a suitable lifetime of input to train it into a desired state. This approach is computationally more expensive, and would require lots of slow (and morally objectionable!) iterations. Or you could try to bypass the iterations by instrumenting various (by definition unwilling) human subjects and log a few decades of their sensory inputs.  Thus you'd only be able to emulate the, um, victims of your experiments, rather than emulating arbitrary cognitive superstars.  Still, you'd be able to cheaply and quickly make copies of them, and an Age Of Emulated Boys From Brazil would then be possible.

3 comments:

Robin Hanson said...

Real human brains have ceased all activity, such as after being made cold, and then started up again and worked fine. So we know we don't need to scan/save activity.

Brian Holtz said...

I'm skeptical that we know that cold brains have actually "stopped". The brain seems unlikely to be stoppable/restartable like e.g. the heart, or a seed, or a spore. I'd appreciate citations of efforts to measure the complete absence of synaptic activity in cold brains.

Carl Feynman said...

You can stop the brain to the point of not shiowing an EEG and not requiring blood flow for more than an hour. Here are two references:

https://www.annalsthoracicsurgery.org/article/S0003-4975(10)64766-2/pdf

https://www.jtcvs.org/article/S0022-5223(19)39462-0/pdf

There are lots of references to this technique, which became popular during heart surgery in the 1980s.